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		<title>Moxie Marlinspike Un-masks Tor Users</title>
		<link>http://blog.phishme.com/2009/02/moxie-marlinspike-un-masks-tor-users/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>schmoilito</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is common knowledge that people get phished on non-SSL HTTP web sites. RSnake has blogged and presented about the weaknesses in todays web browsers that make this possible. These same weaknesses are presumably what Moxie Marlinspike exploited after he thwarted SSL site-validation and encryption via man-in-the-middle (MITM) attacks against HTTP traffic on the Tor [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is common knowledge that people get phished on non-SSL HTTP web sites. RSnake has <a href="http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20070327/look-for-ssl-stupid/">blogged</a> and presented about the weaknesses in todays web browsers that make this possible. These same weaknesses are presumably what <a href="http://www.thoughtcrime.org">Moxie Marlinspike</a> exploited after he thwarted SSL site-validation and encryption via man-in-the-middle (MITM) attacks against HTTP traffic on the Tor network, as discussed in his BlackHat DC <a href="https://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-dc-09/Marlinspike/BlackHat-DC-09-Marlinspike-Defeating-SSL.pdf">talk</a>.</p>
<p>While these weaknesses have been <a href="http://blog.phishme.com/2009/01/how-do-you-trust/">known</a>, what makes Moxie&#8217;s presentation unique is that he launched this attack against a large sample set of real victims, and succeeded in capturing their login credentials. Further, Moxie has shown us that his tool SSLstrip, and others <a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/tseep">like</a> it, can make these attacks easy and automatic &#8211; assuming you have a foothold as a MITM. Hopefully somewhere, upon reading Moxie&#8217;s slides, a browser UI designer has finally let out a <a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=doh!&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sa=N&amp;hl=en&amp;tab=wi" target="_blank">&#8220;Doh!&#8221;</a> and slapped his own forehead.</p>
<p>MITM attacks on SSL aside, the most interesting thing I&#8217;ve taken away from Moxie&#8217;s talk that he was able to identify user accounts for specific web sites on the Tor network. You can read about how Tor works on the <a href="http://www.torproject.org/" target="_blank">Tor Project site</a>, but the purpose of Tor is to provide reliable anonymity while surfing the Internet. Anonymity is key for folks who want to blog about their oppressive governments, as well as those who engage in less-than-ethical activities on the Internet.</p>
<p>Posting an anonymous blog on a free blog service is one thing. But what about anonymously logging into your bank&#8217;s web site? Or anonymously checking your PayPal account? Isn&#8217;t that kind of like anonymously presenting your drivers license to the bouncer at the bar? The person on the receiving end of the communication knows who you are claiming to be.</p>
<p>If I wanted to do something that would hide my identity, I would use the Tor network. However, if I were doing something to hide my identity, I would not do so using my own peronally identifiable information (PII). This really makes me wonder about the people that Moxie man-in-the-middled. Were they ignorantly using Tor, assuming that anonymity in the network provided them increased security to perform their online banking? Or were they bad guys (phishers) logging in to compromised accounts using Tor to hide their identity and protect them from prosecution?</p>
<p>There are a lot of misconceptions about SSL and &#8220;online security&#8221; in the non-security geek world. People don&#8217;t get it. The big question I have after Moxie&#8217;s presentation is &#8220;do similar misconceptions apply to the use of Tor&#8221;? I would be very interested to know more about the people compromised in Moxies experiment.</p>
<p>-Schmoilito</p>
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